[Phpug] IPUG constitution and other formalities.

[ste-com]

Hi Guys

Here are a few words from my holidays in Asia.

> agreed. I think the point of the committee is to build a "unity" of PHP
> developers in Ireland.

Not only. It can concern companies, general media and press activities as 
well. Some translations or parallel activities can be made by people not 
specially PHP engineers. It can go to recruitment help, or even training 
centers.

The point is to promote PHP and to centralize activity around it, for 
example to become the Irish structure where people will come to ask about 
PHP for whatever the reason they will have. The biggest trap would be to 
reduce the IPUG to a pure engineering view, because it will considerably 
reduce the perspectives and future opportunities for everybody.


> that regard, it is important that we don't get bogged down in rules. A
> central administration, where "administration" means generally knowing 
> what
> Irish PHP developers are up to, helping developers choose projects/groups
> to join, and organising events to help the previous-mentioned activities,
> is necessary, but beyond that, we don't need to get too grandiose.

Agreed. My point is to make rules only when we need them. General lines 
should be enough, we are supposed to be between smart people with common 
interest. For now, the rules should more concern the administrative part and 
the way to dispose of the money we will have to manage.


>> Also consider carefully entry *and*
>> exit procedures from the group. It's a sad fact of life that most groups
>> during their existance find they need to expell someone from their midst
>> against their will;

I suppose this will only concern people with responsibilities and duties? Or 
are you thinking to a way to exclude a simple member as well, that mean to 
put him out of the mailing list?

For board members, I presume an internal "" what to not do" should be 
evaluated. But we have to protect members against politics as well: to do 
not like somebody shouldn't be a reason to put him out. But I agree this 
point should be considered.



>> 3)
>> For example, if the chair of
>> the IPUG club ignores the IPUG club constitution and takes SugarCRM's
>> cash and spends it on chocolate cake, there's really no enforcable rule 
>> to
I think the point is "do not use the group money or for personal interest". 
Does the law say anything about it there? In France this can be severely 
punished....

Cheers from Hong Kong before my trip to Macao.

Stef