[Phpug] Possible talks at IOTC

Pádraic Brady padraic.brady at yahoo.com
Tue May 20 20:29:35 IST 2008


If the talk is about PHP being better for web development, then prepare for the war ;). I remember the Perl 6 guy from the Web Tech conf in February blasted PHP at least 7 times in the space of 30mins. Though maybe Perl 6 and PHP 6 folk could get together and strategise how to convince everyone they will be released? Hehehe. A PHP 5.3 + 6 talk would be good actually. I think a lot of developers are still not aware of just how good the 5.3 backports will make that release. Don't forget the little stuff like the new ext/openssl that will make Diffie Hellman calculations for OpenID perform exponentially better!

Paddy

 Pádraic Brady

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----- Original Message ----
From: stef-com <stephane.lambert at vediovis.com>
To: Irish PHP User Group <phpug at lists.iephpug.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:04:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Phpug] Possible talks at IOTC

>> So many things about reputation and image, we have to defend our 
>> technologies
>> to protect our job and our business...
> ah - an interesting one.

Thanks

> I don't want to start a religious war about what language is best

That's not. I made things in J2EE and DOTNET as well. They're not made for 
the same things. Even if I have to say my heart is more in the php side for 
years now.

Before you say, I'm not an integrist. And I try to make things working from 
to Safari to IE6 and IE7 passing by F2 and Mozilla (challenging).


>, but
> "Why is PHP better for the web?"

Because it is a positive name when we have a so negative reputation. Nothing 
more.

> comparisons between PHP and Ruby, Java, Perl (and maybe Python?).

I wasn't thinking to compare things not possible to compare.

Like I said in the IRC that's just a reputation problem we have to fight, 
making communication in good points, like we made when we created the AFUP 
(Association of French PHP Users in 2001). I don't know today but a couple 
of years ago, in the 10 most frequented websites of the planet, 6 were made 
in PHP. And they were safe. In the same time, the PHP language has no 
security bugs in itself. That's things to say, just to defend ourselves 
because there are simply nobody to say it instead of us.

But I can understand this way of thinking can sounds odd.

Stef

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